Let's keep it complicated

[Tigerbeach]

Jacques-Yves Cousteau once said:

"Better to keep your mouth shut, and be thought a fool; than to open it, and remove all doubt"

He said it in French though, and I didn't understand ...

[kirwoodd]

Jacques-Yves Cousteau once said:

"Better to keep your mouth shut, and be thought a fool; than to open it, and remove all doubt"

He said it in French though, and I didn't understand ...

So because I disagree that makes me a fool?
Hardly.
It means that I am capable of free thought and critical thinking. I am sure that there is some equally one sided insult I could throw out there about sheep, but I wont.....


I am NOT saying that long hoses are bad, I am saying this:
At my current experience level, with my type of diving, I think that a long hose is not good for me. Why is it that so bad? I have said it before, and I will say it again: Bamacavediver is 100% correct, long hose is right for him (and others), not everything is right for everyone.

God I hate religion.

[amtrosie]

So because I disagree that makes me a fool?

I am NOT saying that long hoses are bad, I am saying this:
At my current experience level, with my type of diving, I think that a long hose is not good for me. Why is it that so bad? I have said it before, and I will say it again: Bamacavediver is 100% correct, long hose is right for him (and others), not everything is right for everyone.

God I hate religion.

Have you ever dove a long hose, seen it used, dove with some one who is using one?


As for the religion thing......Huh?????

[kirwoodd]

Have you ever dove a long hose, seen it used, dove with some one who is using one?


As for the religion thing......Huh?????

I have dove with a buddy that had one, and so I have also seen it used. Again, they dont look evil, they just don't seem right for me. I am not AGAINST them, I just don't think they are right for ME. So far BamaCaveDiver is the only one who has given credible reasons to use one, and I dont feel as if they apply to my dive style/attitude/environment.

The religion comment is based on tigerbeach's quote. Its common for people with religion (god, diving, drinking, underwear style, whatever) to use that quote when someone disagrees with them. I am not a fool because because I choose a differant path, I am just differant.


AND,
who knows, maybe after reading all the "you need a long hose because..." comments, I will change my mind and go out and get a long hose. Without discussion, who knows?

[Diverdaniel]

Kirwoodd,

Most of my dives are warm calm OW dives these days,
I am sorry to say that I have had to share air with more than a few different buddies on occation, at the moment, when I dive singles, i use a 5' but have the 7' while twined up
i cannot begin to tell you how comfortable it is for both the other diver(not always my buddy) and myself. much safer in my eyes. I think you should take a few dives and try the longhose, see how you like it, talk to an tech instructor or a tech diver on how exactly to work it, practice with it, get a feel for it, only then, make your mind up, but to say that it does not suit you withought even trying it.............
good luck I wish you many many more diving years, have fun and dive safe.

[Bubble Maker]

Its gotta be worth the

and 6 Gulf dives

I would recommend after completing the course you redo your CPR and AED adult and child/infant training tho.

thats my two psi

Mike

[Tigerbeach]

Kirwoodd, you are certainly entitled to any opinion you choose.
The comments made by myself and others are not meant to diminish you as a person, provider, or whatever else in life you do. Or as a diver.

This realm however, is something you know very little about.

I, too, have made 27 dives; Per week. Every week.
Month after month. Year after year.
I made over 5000 dives as an Instructor, many of which were in the course
of training other Instructors.
I don't pretend to know everything. I am only an expert at what I did.
My purpose is to give you an example of experience.

Feel free to use my experience or anyone else's; Or learn it all on your own.

Just don't expect to be taken very seriously, when you choose to spout off about a new skill.

Best fishes,

ASW

[acelockco]

And as a side note.....Always remember this...if your instructor is teaching you something, most likely it is something they learned a long time ago, so what they really think they know may not be the case anymore.

This really hit me hard when I went to college for computer science. An ongoing problem for a lot of the computer science majors was that the teachers had not been to school in years. They were trying to teach us things, but everything they knew was outdated. It was more like we learned on our own, and then taught the teacher. Kinda makes me wonder why I wasn't the one getting paid.......

[kirwoodd]

Kirwoodd, you are certainly entitled to any opinion you choose.
The comments made by myself and others are not meant to diminish you as a person, provider, or whatever else in life you do. Or as a diver.

This realm however, is something you know very little about.

I, too, have made 27 dives; Per week. Every week.
Month after month. Year after year.
I made over 5000 dives as an Instructor, many of which were in the course
of training other Instructors.
I don't pretend to know everything. I am only an expert at what I did.
My purpose is to give you an example of experience.

Feel free to use my experience or anyone else's; Or learn it all on your own.

Just don't expect to be taken very seriously, when you choose to spout off about a new skill.

Best fishes,

ASW

incredibly valid, and it should be weighed accordingly.
I know 4 guys who dive 80 times a month, every month, all year long, NONE of them has a long hose. I am NOT saying that long hoses are bad, I am saying that people should make their own decisions based on their situations.

OK, that makes it something like 5 times that I have said it, so thats the last.
sorry for the diversion. All done.