Should Dive Certifications be a "license"

[Papa Bear]

[QUOTE=acelockco;6468]

Most people aren't afraid of breathing underwater, their afraid of sharks! 70% of first timers don't continue to dive!

Why do you keep making this about me? Do you feel that insecure that you have to attack a 56 year old diver? Who in over 4000 dives ....QUOTE]


Where did you come up with this? You are WRONG! Most people ARE afraid to breathe underwater. It is against instinct and can be a problem for many people just starting out. Most people are afraid of sharks, but not as afraid as they are of not breathing!!!! Think about it.

Now aboutyour 4000+ dives and such, it maybe true, or it may be something you made up as no one has anyway to prove or disprove that. If it is true however, I think we found the problem. In your 56 years, I bet you learned a lot, but I think you have forgot a lot as well! You seem to think and you definately act like you are better than others here.

It must be that you are getting so old, because you are acting like the mean old man yelling at all of the kids in the neighborhood. All the while the kids are getting a kick out of taunting the old man.

You would think as a newbie (maybe you have a billion dives and 1000+ C-cards in every subject including jacking off) but you are a newbie HERE, you should have a little respect for the other users. All you are doing is showing how much of an A55hole you really are.

You said take it or leave it in another post, really I would perfer to leave it. Considering I have been here a lot longer than you, please don't let the door hit you in the A55 on your way out.

I am sorry, did I not lay enough gold at YOUR feet?

Did I attack your kid? Get a dive life! Go have a cup of coffee! You need it! People aren't afraid of SCUBA the shark question gets asked in shops across the world! The 70% comes from the industry! If anyone is out of touch, when was the last time you talked to new divers? I don't ACT at anything I do what I do. If it bothers you it is your problem not mine. I am here to support diving and lend experience and not hype! I am not here to scar anyone! I am here to tell people they can jump in and dive regardless of their condition and that anyone can do it! WITHIN THEIR LIMITS! You my friend need to take a long cool dive and think about where you are in the food chain! As far as on my way out! LMAO I am just getting started!

[acelockco]

[QUOTE=Papa Bear;6469]

I am sorry, did I not lay enough gold at YOUR feet?

Did I attack your kid?

No it is not that at all. All I am saying is you are NEW HERE and you are already making a lot of people very upset with your name calling. I already thought I let you know that before, but things did not change. I figured a taste of your own medicine would help you out. Maybe I was wrong.

Anyway, do whatever you want, say whatever you want. It does not really matter, because I think most of us have already lost all respect for you at this point. Go play dive god all you want. Or you can be a man and know when you were wrong and then start over.

Good luck in whatever path you choose.

[phrenicnerve]

You have kinda changed your "tune" sense the first chord! I said you were being Elitist! And I stand behind what I said. SCUBA is very safe once you understand the process. Most people aren't afraid of breathing underwater, their afraid of sharks! 70% of first timers don't continue to dive! More training isn't why, if they like it and want more they seek more training! The idea is to allow as many as want to, to have the experience. The Idea that you keep floating that "This is a Dangerous Sport" is just hogwash! It can be, but anyone can do it!

Why do you keep making this about me? Do you feel that insecure that you have to attack a 56 year old diver? Who in over 4000 dives has had a "few" close calls, mostly when I was young and bold, but still loves the Ocean and feels as safe in it as most people home mowing their lawn! Oh ya there is risk in that as well!

You are right about one thing I don't get YOU!

I attacked you?

oh man are you for real papa bear?...this is becoming pure comedy!

I'm done.

I haven't changed a single note in that chord you think you heard.

[Papa Bear]

What respect? And who cares? What names? Are you guys in the Twilight Zone? New has what to do with what? I am not new to diving, talking, forming opinions, losing freedom or fighting for it! You want what "Oh please Mr. Big Diver"? You want a discussion with yes men go hire one! I never called any body a "Name" where and when? I think your panties are in a bit of a bunch and you seem upset that the big bad man took your macho away by saying anyone can dive! Including handy capped and wounded G.I.s also I did mention Dogs I saw that on the Discovery Channel. BTW 200000 people are hurt on bicycles each year, now that is a dangerous activity! Not to mention Men and the Bicycles seat thing! Other than that I don't understand you hostility! Your attitude is a wonderful point as to why we should never license our activity, you might be put in charge! Now why don't you concentrate on your argument and less on your loss of respect for me before you make me cry! My feeling are so hurt.

Remember in Politics, if you don't have a good argument about the message attack the messenger!

[Tigerbeach]

I have been wading through this for a few days now.

My request, is that we all back away from this challenge of who can piss the highest, and use your considerable talents and experience towards a better purpose; OK?.
Let me know if you will accept my request.

Anthony

[jeff98208]

if dive certs become a "license" then it'll be the end of certs requiring NO renewal. so i heby am forced to say NNNNOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[DrBill]

Yes, I think that certification should require renewal every so many years unless one can demonstrate having done a certain number of dives within that period. I have seen far too many divers who have not dived in years come back to the sport without a refresher or recertification and been a PITA to dive with... not to mention rescue!

[scuba smurf]

[QUOTE=DrBill;9713]Yes, I think that certification should require renewal every so many years unless one can demonstrate having done a certain number of dives within that period. I have seen far too many divers who have not dived in years come back to the sport without a refresher or recertification and been a PITA to dive with... not to mention rescue!

the only problem with that would be the people who would sit in their kitchen and falsify their logbook to "show" diving experience. I've seen it done before..........well I saw the logbook with a few hundred falsified logs in it anyway.

[Tigerbeach]

So maybe we devise a test for these people; you know, a few questions we could ask to see if they REALLY have the experience to stay licensed.

What would YOU ask them?

[The Publisher]

In legal circles this is what we call a "slippery slope".

Let's cede all freedom, then turn around and ask the government for their permission to engage in every conceivable human endeavor.

Feel free to dissent....but....

If ye doubt your courage or strength, go no further, for DEATH awaits you all, with nasty, pointy teeth!