Does Australia have it right????

[Papa Bear]

YES! But only about half, because the other half is in opposition! The other half want freedom and family values! The other half want freedom and democracy for all in the world! The other half want the Constitution to be the guiding document in our lives limiting our government and not us! The other half wants you to have the right to worship the way you want, but at your place of worship without forcing someone else to face East, West, or any other direction! The other half knows that your fires, like ours, are made worse by Environmentalist not allowing man to control "His" Environment and not some BS Global Warming political crap! The other half wants us to drill our own Oil freeing up cheaper energy for the rest of the world! The other half wants Nuclear
Power and wants it now! So be my guest! Otherwise you have no standards

BTW about half of us DON'T WANT TO SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS ON BIGGER GOVERNMENT! The other half is just stupid!

[hbh2oguard]

The other half is just stupid!

I'm clearly the other stupid half and proud of it! Sooooo sorry but Obama will truly have to try his hardest to be a terrible president and even if he gave it his best he will still be a thousand times better than Bush ever was! Why don't you worry a little closer to home and our great govenator who can't run a state! Stick to acting even though he was never that great because it obvious he has no clue what's required to run a state or get a budget to pass. Sure hope that budget doesn't pass, well atleat he can never be president and run the entire country to the ground....oh woops Bush already did that!!!! I've ignored someone's tirade for long enough on every political issue on this site and finally decide to spreak my mind

[rubber chicken]

YES! But only about half, because the other half is in opposition! The other half want freedom and family values! The other half want freedom and democracy for all in the world! The other half want the Constitution to be the guiding document in our lives limiting our government and not us! The other half wants you to have the right to worship the way you want, but at your place of worship without forcing someone else to face East, West, or any other direction! The other half knows that your fires, like ours, are made worse by Environmentalist not allowing man to control "His" Environment and not some BS Global Warming political crap! The other half wants us to drill our own Oil freeing up cheaper energy for the rest of the world! The other half wants Nuclear
Power and wants it now! So be my guest! Otherwise you have no standards

BTW about half of us DON'T WANT TO SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS ON BIGGER GOVERNMENT! The other half is just stupid!

That would be the 'half' that spent the last eight years claiming that any criticism of the president was at best "unpatriotic" or, at worse, "treasonous"?
The 'half' that supported an illegal war?
The 'half' that demonised an elected official based on his middle name?
The 'half' that believes that pro-capital, pro-free market, pro- military equals socialism?
The 'half' that has no problem with US government interference in the lives of other people as long as they are citizens of a different country?
The 'half' that sees nothing wrong in 5% of the worlds population using 25% of the worlds resources?
The 'half' that glorifies the constitution but seems unable to say "Patriot Act"?
The 'half' that supports the spending of multi trillions of dollars on new and exciting ways to kill people but complains bitterly at the thought of paying a small percentage of that to provide health care?
The 'half' that, despite all the evidence, denies evolution?
The 'half' that would use the tragedy of a natural disaster to make a tawdry political point?


Enquiring minds would like to know.

[hbh2oguard]

The 'half' that, despite all the evidence, denies evolution?

What about ecology too??? Try your hardest to deplete any and all non-renewable energy sources while destroying the environment for the next generations to come! Thankfully "drill baby drill" is gone...hopefully for good since she's now a grandmother go learn how to knit...haha! But really, I'm part of the next generation and you may not care about the environment but I have a lot longer time left on this earth than you do. So open your eyes a little wider and accept that sustainability and a more eco-friendly lifestyle should be a part of you and everyone else!

[Papa Bear]

That the funnest, most typical of a liberal education dogma statement I have heard! The good news for YOU is you have a life time to find out how wrong you and B.O. are! The sad thing is the Freedom and wealth that will be lost for all time! You've bought the whole green thing! Do some home work will you! It takes a solar panel 300 years to recoup the energy it takes to make it! Sadly they only last 30 years! We have it almost ALL wrong and B.O. is the tip of the Socialist Zit and when it pops it will be ugly! We just doubled the Governments GDP interest in our country and the Stock Market has lost more then 3000 points! Good job! Clinton started this Barnie Franks guided it and B.O. buried us from inside! SAD day in America and the rest of the world! Just wait and see how bad he screws up Afghanistan!

[Papa Bear]

That would be the 'half' that spent the last eight years claiming that any criticism of the president was at best "unpatriotic" or, at worse, "treasonous"?
The 'half' that supported an illegal war?
The 'half' that demonised an elected official based on his middle name?
The 'half' that believes that pro-capital, pro-free market, pro- military equals socialism?
The 'half' that has no problem with US government interference in the lives of other people as long as they are citizens of a different country?
The 'half' that sees nothing wrong in 5% of the worlds population using 25% of the worlds resources?
The 'half' that glorifies the constitution but seems unable to say "Patriot Act"?
The 'half' that supports the spending of multi trillions of dollars on new and exciting ways to kill people but complains bitterly at the thought of paying a small percentage of that to provide health care?
The 'half' that, despite all the evidence, denies evolution?
The 'half' that would use the tragedy of a natural disaster to make a tawdry political point?


Enquiring minds would like to know.

What a load of crap! Some people just don't get it and it is best to let their own words hoist them on their own Petards! Well said! LOL
BTW: YOU NOW HAVE IT ALL, BE HAPPY!

[hbh2oguard]

It's not like I'm asking you to sell you tank (go buy another one GM/Ford could really use your business) or spent thousands on solar pannels. The little things will help if most everyone is willing to do them. Come on global warm is a FACT, or atleast to 70% of the worlds leading scientists. But again it took a long to for some to admit that the world is infact round but then again some still believe it flat. Time will tell the truth!

[Papa Bear]

Look Sciences is not about consensus, it is fact, provable fact! Not theory, just ask the Astronaut that just resigned http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=...num=1&ct=title If GW is real or man made! Is 115 record lows in October part of "It's real" or record cold in Europe?

I am so glad you brought up solar panels!! Fact it would take a solar panel 300 years to recover the energy it takes to make it! Learn a little! Hummm, how is that made! Here is a quot from a scientific discussion on the net: "Solar insolation at earth orbit in the vacuum of space is only 1000W/m2. It's reduced coming through the atmosphere; at high noon in the Sahara desert during the summer it's about 900W/m2.

Personally, I prefer to use NASA's global insolation average of 342W/m2. This takes into account variations in weather, time of year and sunrise and sunset.

At 10% efficiency that works out to 34.2W/m2. 1000MW divided by 34.2W/m2 gives rougly 29.2 million square meters which is 29.2 sq km. If Google is to be believed, 1 sq kilometer = 0.386102159 sq miles which works out to be roughly 11.3 square miles.

Just remember, nothing will live under this thing because there is no sunlight underneath it to allow anything to grow. You will also miles of road, support structures and cables to service and transport electricity for this thing.

This solar panel and it's supporting infrastructure will be made from materials dug out of the ground so imagine a hole somewhere in the world 11 square miles round and a depth equivalent to the height of this thing.

The real calculation that needs to be done is figuring out how much energy a solar panel will put out over it's lifetime compared to the amount of energy needed to make it. Because if it takes more energy to make then it delivers then it does more harm to the environment then good. Don't forget to include the energy cost of servicing, recycling dead panels, and the rest of the infrastructure."

An engineer told me personally it takes 300 years to recoup the "Total" amount of energy for production!

The answer is Nuclear!

We are in the mess we are in from the Dumocrats setting rules for over 60 years! We need to let "Free Market forces" drive the next technology!

[acelockco]

We are in the mess we are in from the Dumocrats setting rules for over 60 years! We need to let "Free Market forces" drive the next technology!

What country are you in? I only know of Ripoffublicans ruling and ruining everything. Look at the mess the Ripoffublicans have left, now it is time for someone else to try to fix what they have f-ed up so badly.

[rubber chicken]

What a load of crap! Some people just don't get it and it is best to let their own words hoist them on their own Petards! Well said! LOL
BTW: YOU NOW HAVE IT ALL, BE HAPPY!

Oh! Ok then, must be different 'halves' from yours