Quote Originally Posted by sd2k View Post
Mike, DIR had your support? In what way? You have clearly never supported DIR. You have never had DIR philosophy, gear, or training... how did you support it? I'm sure you and Barbara dive safely together, but your support of TDI nonsense like this on your boat is outrageous and dangerous:
http://scubapro25.blogspot.com/2007/...l-heights.html

I would never dive with you.
Well, sd2k, whoever you are, I guess it was just a matter of time before this turned personal, eh?

You trawl other SCUBA boards, looking for people's dive reports to use against them, when you weren't even there?

This is why I try and avoid 'getting into it' with DIR types: their fanaticism invariably causes them to start getting personal in debates.

1. I clearly said in in previous posts that I thought DIR had some good ideas, but it was the fanaticism that turns people off. See remarks like "It's only a matter of 'when' you will die, not using DIR techniques, not if." And: "I would never dive with you." I might die and take you with me, huh?

2. What TDI 'nonesense' are you talking about? Where you with us that day on the dive? Did you not see subsequent remarks I made indicating that 1) we did not 'approve' of anything those divers did that day? and 2) their actions in no way indicate that we 'approved' of what they did, because they were caught in an open ocean current.

In fact, what they did, led to a new policy on our boat: no more Tech diving. Either TDI or DIR.


You can call it 'TDI nonesense' if you wish, but the fact remains that they came up safely and were recovered with no injuries to themselves or others, other than the slight inconvenience of having to bring up the anchor and move the boat to the new location, where they had safely deployed a marker buoy to indicate their new location.

I personally, don't see what in DIR training would make you immune to open water currents.

If I were you, I would be careful 'Monday-morning-quarter-backing' dives you were not present for.

Anyway, this marks my last post this thread.

Having a civil debate with DIRinian is like arguing with a Christian: it's all about how they are 'Doing It Right' and going to heaven and you're not.

And, that, my friend, is a lose/lose proposition.

This is why you guys all hang out with each other and dive with each other, because most 'normal' divers won't have anything to do with you.

Too much 'holier-than-thou' nonesense and not enough actual diving.

However, I wish you the best and safe diving--DIR or not.

Mikey