Papa, show me your research to back the truth as you state it, I'll keep an open mind

But at the moment, my vote goes with the large group of top international scientists who spent a long time talking about environmental issues last December in Bali.

As for fluffy ideas? If you think that asking the whole world to completely change their methods of consumption, transport and fuel, try and redirect the progression who's rate has increased exponentially since the industrial revolution to use more sustainable methods, try and persuade the people who control and make millions by keeping the problem going to admit they are wrong, is fluffy, then you really are a few sandwiches short of a picnic!

Nah, sitting back in your big gas guzzling 4 x 4 with the heating on full blast believing the suits who are getting rich off your spending when they tell you the problem doesn't exist, pretending that everything is just A OK even though the evidence is righ there in fromt of your eyes if you just open them, because it's too much hassle or requires too much thought to do anything else, that's what I call fluffy.