Quote Originally Posted by phrenicnerve View Post
AMEN

But then again, if there weren't so many f*$%ing lawyers ready to pounce over ANYTHING (which remember is ONLY about his/her bank account, not ethics), none of this would really even matter. I agree that women should be insulted, but it doesn't seem to matter (the double standard). Lawyers don't give a hoot because they walk away with a check - and, well, isn't that really what todays world is about?

I say if women want to start clubs ONLY for women, why not call 'em lesbian clubs. This way no one pays any attention. Otherwise, making a stink about mens clubs becomes the achilles heel for what women were trying to achieve to begin with. Hmm, but I say again - it isn't REALLY about equality, is it.

Women like to see men as stupid anyway, why did they ever even want to join mens clubs to begin with?

Same double standard exists with these female teachers boppin the male students. Sure they get reemed publicly, but not quite to the degree a man would if he does the same with a female student. "He" is considered a 'rapist', while "she" has 'emotional problems'. err, not very logical.




lame...
Dear phrenicnerve,

Whilst I empathise with some your sentiments (mostly your feelings with regards to lawyers), I can't begin to tell you how many things in your post are upsetting to me as a woman!

Anyway - all us girls want is to be treated with respect - especially when undertaking activities considered to be male orientated.

There are things that women will never be able to do, for example pee standing up (we can try, but it just gets messy) and it is unlikely that you'll see a woman playing the in Super Bowl. But you may yet get a woman President, or major league football coach. These women will have had to work a million times harder than their male peers to make it, and it is likely that if they make a mistake it'll be blamed on their 'time of the month' or hormones or some such thing!

I own a dive shop, and I don't know any other dive shops owned and operated by a woman. I dive everyday, but I still have to come home and run my home as well. (My husband 'helps', but he works full time too, and he's just too tired to worry about grocery shopping and cooking dinner, laundry, ironing etc...etc...etc...married ladies you will understand what I'm getting at here - love him dearly though! ) What I'm trying to say is that being a girl is not all about shopping, and shoes and bling - and not all women are completely devastated if they break a nail (although it is quite upsetting some times!).

When a women has the strength to excel within an arena usually dominated by men it should be recognised and celebrated.

By the way, in my experience the majority of Men Only clubs are an excuse to exclude - Women orientated clubs and organisations are used to promote, educate and celebrate.

Kay Wilson,
St. Vincent, WI