The question is will politicians, environmentalist, and the news media effect your diving and they are! Ask any LDS any where in the world! Many resorts are feeling the pinch from fuel prices and my point is it is not supply of oil it is the delivery of the supply effected by the above! BTW in the USA a person walking a mile creates more CO2 than an automobile driving the same mile! Hum! Although facts seem to be the real shortage!
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Yea actual facts do seem pretty hard to come by, I take it you didn't look at the link because it's a govt. communist conspiracy....right?Originally Posted by Papa Bear
How much carbon dioxide do humans contribute through breathing?
The average person, through the natural process of breathing, produces approximately 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide per day. The actual amount depends strongly on the person's activity level. However, this carbon dioxide is part of a natural closed-loop cycle and does not contribute to the greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere. Natural processes of photosynthesis (in plants) and respiration (in plants and animals) maintain a balance of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Thus, the carbon dioxide from natural process is not included in greenhouse gas inventories.
In contrast, the burning of fossil fuels upsets this natural equilibrium by adding a surplus of carbon dioxide into the system. The carbon in fossil fuels has been stored underground for millions of years and thus is not part of the current natural carbon cycle. When those fuels are burned, the carbon dioxide generated is over and above the amount circulating from natural sources. Land use changes such as deforestation also upset the natural equilibrium by reducing the amount of carbon dioxide removed from the atmosphere by forests. Thus, both fossil fuel burning and deforestation are accounted for by scientists who develop greenhouse gas inventories to study how greenhouse gases contribute to climate change.
No, the question most definitely was has the increase in fuel prices affected your diving.
You've chose chosen to hijack the thread, again, with your own political rants and lead it straight into another pointless discussion/debate/argument over environmental issues and beliefs.
I very much doubt that your facts and well informed comments are going to disuade me and people like me from what we believe, any more then our facts or well informed comments will be heard by you.
So really, why bother? It just gets ugly, personal, and I'm sure will put people off the site.
Just my humble opinion, of course.
Well maybe it will inform someone and educate those willing to keep an open mind! You, and many like you are sheep to slaughter and its all your choice! If I open the eyes of one person or give hope that all the dome and gloom is bogus then its worth my time! If you think I have hijacked anything I am not the one who attacks without fact my answer! All I ever offer is facts and food for thought! A starving brain is a terrible thing to see! BTW you spelled Dissuade wrong! Stones and glass houses, at least may facts still stand!
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For those of us who don't want to read or realizes the effects of the carbon cycle and this conspiracy theory called "global warming" here's a graphic. The only problem is that the arrow from the burning of fossil fuels isn't nearly big enough.
Carbon Dioxide has gone up in the last ten years yet global temperatures have gone down! Water vapor is more important than 4thousands of one percent raise in CO2! Total CO2 in our atmosphere is .036% up from .032% and yet this amount 800 times less than in the Plasticine era is causing Global warming! Right and I have some swamp land you might be interested in! The sun and sun spots are responsible for all warming on the First through ninth planet in this solar system! Space minus 300 degrees plus surface of the earth -60* to 136* in Death valley and also in Africa in the 1930's! Thats right not 1998! Snow and Ice 1% above century average for the Arctic! Global Warming? Oceans down 1/2 degree Centigrade in the last 5 years! Ice pack in Antarctic 30% above normal! Sun activity 20 year cycle of sun spots is now quite for the last 5 years peaking in 2003! On and on and the sheep will always find a reason to follow regardless of the facts and lack of any of the so called signs of predicted GW! So whats the answer? Only one, control and the daily loss of your freedoms and raising fuel prices and a lot of money being made selling you green!
No simple 3rd grade model needed!
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OK, kids, take it easy there. We all know stats can be used to show anything, 0.036% of anything is a very small proportion, but a rise in CO2 from 0.032% to 0.036% is a 12.5% increase. Sounds significant to me. Also, I hope the info referred to (Plasticine era etc.) didn't come from the acknowledged hoax distributed last year and broadcast by Rush Limbaugh.
http://adamant.typepad.com/seitz/200...o-judgeme.html
I am not taking sides, I agree that whatever the decisions they need to based on genuine scientific evidence. Research what you feel are accurate sources and then make your own decisions. At the end of the day, whatever your beliefs or political persuasions, conservation is not a bad thing whether it be to save a few bucks at the gas pump, a few gallons of water at home or a few kilowatt hours on your electricity bill.
OK, so back to the original question.Is the price of gas/petrol having an impact on my diving? Answer, yes, but not much. I am being a little more careful due to economic factors, one of which is the price of fuel for the car. I choose to drive a relatively thirsty truck (15 mpg, US gallon), but I need it when going for a dive weekend, to carry all the gear. However, when planning the weekend, we get together and figure out who can ride with whom to share the costs and to make the journey more enjoyable.
I choose what activities I take part in based on a number of factors, as we all have choices. If I have an option to go on a diving trip somewhere but to do so would mean I couldn't pay the mortgage, I would choose not to go.However, if I have the choice between a new fridge or a new BCD, the answer is more likely to be "do I really need a new fridge, or will the old one rattle on for a few more months?"
Whether you are a millionaire or an average Joe, you have choices as to what you do with your money.
OK, now back to the soap box derby!
I have to say I am not as "informed" about Global Warming and environmental issues as the rest of you. But I have made some observations based on my own personal experience over the years. It seems to me there are more violent weather storms than there was years ago. It also seems to me like the annual hurricanes start earlier in the year now than they did when I was younger. In fact, I find that in my area that spring starts later and the nicer weather lasts longer into the fall. We used to start swimming at the ol' swimming hole in May when I was a kid, now it is mid-June and the water is still frigid. And yet last summer I saw the warmest water temps I had ever seen by the end of the summer. Winters are far more milder than they were when I was a kid. We don't get anywhere near the snowfall that we used to when I was younger. So I wonder what all that means?
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Very good points! All it matters is how you interpret the data. Global warming might not be as bad as some portray but there is data to suggest it's happening. All though the changes might seem insignificant, and have little or no effects in our lifetime, change is occurring. The pH of the ocean is changing even less(becoming acidic) but that may have significant changes. No it doesn't mean it will burn us, but species will become extinct due to the change. At first I was extremely skeptical of global warming but with time and knowledge it's impossible to ignore. At the last world conference on global warming I believe it was that 93% of all the worlds scientists recognized global warming. Scientists NEVER agree, so something must be happening. To what extent, who knows! I could care less if you agree or not but we can all do our part! Fossil fuels aren't sustainable or renewable, so do your best to conserve. Remember it's all about sustainability! That's all I'm trying to get at. So who's it hurting if we monitor our uses, and try to conserver? Oh yea no one! It's the people who are fixed in their views, and won't change that will cause the most problems. Remember denial won't solve anything and is one of the first symptoms of DCSOK, kids, take it easy there. We all know stats can be used to show anything, 0.036% of anything is a very small proportion, but a rise in CO2 from 0.032% to 0.036% is a 12.5% increase. Sounds significant to me. Also, I hope the info referred to (Plasticine era etc.) didn't come from the acknowledged hoax distributed last year and broadcast by Rush Limbaugh.
http://adamant.typepad.com/seitz/200...o-judgeme.html
I am not taking sides, I agree that whatever the decisions they need to based on genuine scientific evidence. Research what you feel are accurate sources and then make your own decisions. At the end of the day, whatever your beliefs or political persuasions, conservation is not a bad thing whether it be to save a few bucks at the gas pump, a few gallons of water at home or a few kilowatt hours on your electricity bill.
OK, so back to the original question.
I choose what activities I take part in based on a number of factors, as we all have choices. If I have an option to go on a diving trip somewhere but to do so would mean I couldn't pay the mortgage, I would choose not to go.
Whether you are a millionaire or an average Joe, you have choices as to what you do with your money.
OK, now back to the soap box derby!So agian just be proactive and do your best! But back to the origional question, I forgot that it has changed my diving because I sold my boat due to the increasing costs of fuel and the cheap wads not wanting to chip in
So we have sheep on the one side and ostriches on the other. Perhaps that's why we find it so difficult to communicate, we're talking completely different languages from a completely different perspective.
Anyway, how about answering the original question eh Papa, everyone else has managed without breaking down into a political fervour. Go on, treat us all, take a deep breath and try and ignore this self bidden urge to show us all the light, mend the err of our ways. ;-)
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