Seizing Natural Climate Change by Politicans!

[Papa Bear]

Seizing climate change has become a political weapon for those who have been predicting doom for 40 years or more!

The first earth day saw us worrying about the next Ice Age, which my still come, and "Zero Population Growth" to insure our preservation!

So what have we achieved over the years? We spent, as Americans 3 billion dollars, with the US hating UN to tell us that the world was heating due to us! Well that is proving to be another lie as the Ice Age bunch which happens to be the same bunch! We have been taught flawed science that according to such scientists as Ted Dansen, the Ocean will be dead by the mid 1990's!

We are now seeing climate cooling and it is probably due to less solar activity and the warming we had was due to increased activity! Seeing that the sun controls the earth climate more than all the other factors combined! But if you think it's natural, you won't give up your freedom! You will for the sake of "The Children" and "The Environment", you will smile and shake your head yes all the way to the slaughter house! They have made it a religion that allows the government to control every aspect of your life! We woke up one morning and we had no freedom, and it was this morning! Name three things in this free country that are not illegal, regulated, or taxed? Go ahead! You can't!

So what have we really paid for or little life's lesson I call the Chicken Little and the Sky is falling era? Well today in California the government is taking away fire from the free citizens of California! We are losing one more freedom that is just one more small brick in the wall!

We are seeing drugs rise because we are teaching our children that we are all going to die as the water rises and we burn up! We are stealing their hope and their youth! We are teaching them in school that the UN is our savior and that America is evil! We all need to understand what Lincoln said "That America will fall from the inside" it is the only way it can be done and we are doing it! When you kill hope you kill the next generation! I won't go into the mess we are bring onto ourselves with the candidates we have put to the top of the pile! We are getting what the majority wants! But always remember we are not a democracy! We were a Representative Republic!

What have we really lost or paid for? Well instead of having large families we have let Islam out populate us by at least 3 to 1 just in wives and 10 to 1 in children! So our very existence is threatened in the long run by worse things than climate change! We as a country can't control our own border so by embracing every culture other than or own we are seeing the last of American culture be destroyed like a pinata!

The most expensive price has been all those potentially beautiful children that "We" decided not to have to save a planet that doesn't need saving! Who knows if we didn't have the new Einstein that would have invented free power or how to fold space so that when this sun dies we could just move on? We will never know the potential we have not created?

We have seen wars that should have killed all the worlds reefs yet they survived? We have set off nuclear bombs on and over coral reefs and yet they have survived! Yet we are told that sun screen will kill the coral!

I really believe that the book Trashing the Planet should be made mandatory reading in school along with Animal Farm and 1984! We are finding that the great social experiment known as USA is turning into mob rule were we vote to take away the wealth earned by others and give it to those who chose not to earn it except by vote! Ignorance is the the most expensive thing we pay for! We have turned into a feel good society without thought of where we will go or end up!

We are fighting a war yet we aren't willing to sacrifice the "Conveniences" that might be taken away from us in order to give others freedom! I hear people say we should be spending the money on us rather than fighting a war! Again we are worried that we are not getting our fair share! But by not being there we will have no say as to the free flow of oil and we will see $15.00 a gallon gas! We won't drill our own again because some "Greenie" won't let us! SO don't ever bitch about the price of fuel if your not willing to be smart about it! We have the answer to plentiful energy, but we can't build nuclear plants again because of the Greenies!

What did we do before FEMA or NOAA? We did it ourselves! We have become way to depended government not oil! We won't build anymore refineries but demand the oil companies that WE own lower their prices! We don't understand supply and demand!

So whats the answer? Well maybe my Grandmother had it back in the 50's!
"Everything in moderation"! That should include government! Don't forget if we invite more to the party by putting ourselves under the UN as well! We need to get back to fundamentals and yes maybe some faith as well! If not in God then in science to solve our problems without giving up freedom!

[The Publisher]

I would say "good post, papa" but papa is a construct of the evil capitalistic patriarchy that oppresses the downtrodden proletariat who will unite in a popular uprising an install a gynocentric matriarchal workers paradise where all can nurse at the government $ trough subsidized from fines levied against the imperialistic corporations who stifle innovation!

[Papa Bear]

It is the place for a rant! But it is so true! The really said part is I have been very good at prognostication about the last 30 years!

[Conrad]

What people fail to consider is that the earth naturally goes through cycles.
I'm all for polluting as little as possible and finding renewable sources of energy, and better ways of dealing with our waste. But let's use some common cents.

First let us consider that a theory is just an educated guess and just because a theory is accepted as plausiable does not make it fact.
1) How do we know what the Hole in the OZONE layer was doing 30 yrs ago, we have only had the technology to register it for the past 10. It's a guess
2) If the world is so much warmer now, how did the vikings farm in Iceland?

I'm old enough to remember David Suzuki ( Canada's leading voice on climate change) having a special on CBC in the seventies. exclaiming that mankind will have to learn to adapt to the new ice age. And he spent 2hrs supporting this theory with " scientific facts about the Earth getting colder over the last 1000yrs and the polar caps are advancing at a rate of 35cm /yr and the glaciers have increased in size etc...etc...etc.

So 30 years later we have a new accepted theory, that the climate is warming. And it has for the last 1000 years, but that the rate has increased in the last one hundred, and the ice caps and the glaciers, which have been receding since the last ice age, are increasing the rate of receding over the past 100yrs.

So now we have new popular "theory" and all the environmentalists once again on the doomsday band wagon:

1) The polar bears are disappearing!!!

Could this not be because in the last 100yrs man has been able to harvest the resources of the artic and been putting pressure and the habitat of the bear.I could go on and on but won't.

And the governments are worst. Every time they need support they come out with a new environment plan-to help slow the warming of the earth and everyone buys into it. This is just Fear Tactics to rally support.
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Hitler, Napoleon, Caesar, Genghis Khan Have been some of the more notable users of the same tactics to rally support. But fear mongering has been a political tactic since the first man said give me your support and I will lead you, I know what is best for us.

The reason they do this is because if we are primarily worried about this. We don't worry about all the people killing each other in the streets, and the Family that is Starving and living in cardboard boxes. Or that they have messed up our countries (any country) through bad ideas. Here in Calgary it is the worst. Every time the city council wants to do something they know the population will not like they review the anti smoking law and get all the fanatics from both sides up in arms again, the media just eats this up as well. You can't read a paper or watch the news without seeing the issue. And when the smoke clears you read a little blurb on the 9th page or at the end of the news. How city council has given themselves a raise again or how my taxes will go up another 4%.

[thalassamania]

With all due respect, it is usually considered important for one to at least appear to have actually gone out and learned something about the topics of concern before floundering about to shape one's own opinion, not to mention struggling to influence the opinions of others. Such learning traditionally begins with mastering the spelling of some of the words that are critical to the discussion. Most people learn to spell these terms as they familiarize themselves with the subject, so the lack of familiarity with correct spelling is oft confused with ignorance of the topic. An occasional typographic mistake is usually overlooked but systematic errors in spelling, punctuation and grammar cause readers to dismiss the author.

If one wishes to be taken seriously on the question of climate change it helps to know that "ice age" is two words not one. If one is to effectively oppose "environmentalists," then do not refer to them as "enviromentalist." Political opinions are best directed against governments rather than "Goverments." Commentary concerning the northern latitudes carry much more weight when reference is made to the Arctic rather than the "artic." It is generally considered good form to capitalize the first letter of the names of sovereign nations such as Iceland and Canada.

Historical observations are most effective when the names of those discussed are spelled correctly and conjunctions are used. Not, "Napolion, Ceasar, Gangus Kaun," rather "Napoleon, Caesar and Genghis Khan." One does get points for spelling "Hitler" right, but in the absence of spelling any of the other names correctly one runs the risk of having one's audience wonder why that's the name you're most familiar with.

[Conrad]

Sorry about the spelling, had not had morning coffee and forgot spell checker . LOL

[hbh2oguard]

We are fighting a war yet we aren't willing to sacrifice the "Conveniences" that might be taken away from us in order to give others freedom! I hear people say we should be spending the money on us rather than fighting a war! Again we are worried that we are not getting our fair share! But by not being there we will have no say as to the free flow of oil and we will see $15.00 a gallon gas! We won't drill our own again because some "Greenie" won't let us! SO don't ever bitch about the price of fuel if your not willing to be smart about it! We have the answer to plentiful energy, but we can't build nuclear plants again because of the Greenies!

Take a look at this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080308/..._changed_lives


Is the free flow of oil really worth it? By any chance do you know who one of our largest imports is?

[davaotom]

Have you ever felt like laughing out loud but were kept in check by incredulous disappointment? I was diving with a guy last year in the Galapagos islands. Brilliant guy. I really respected him...and then he deflated me.

Some of us were commenting on how cold it was and this dive master said the cold was actually a result of global warming...it seems, according to him, that it got sooo hot in antartica that a huge glacier melted and fell into the ocean sending a large plume of cold air into the atmosphere which drifted thousands of miles north and caused the cold front we were experiencing. What...no...huhhhh?

Davaotom

[littleleemur]

Have you ever felt like laughing out loud but were kept in check by incredulous disappointment? I was diving with a guy last year in the Galapagos islands. Brilliant guy. I really respected him...and then he deflated me.

...tends to happen by the third date

[Papa Bear]

The guy who started the Weather Channel. Mr. Colman, is going to sue Algore for fraud! I love the way they shut up anyone with facts! I hope he takes his NPP and he ends up in tent wishing for GW!