Again, and finally, please do to not make this a referendum on the DIR philosophy. If you have issues with DIR, take it up in the rants, meltdowns and beefs forum. DIR proponents are very welcome here, and we don't think THEIR forum section here should be spent constantly defending their position anymore than we would let non-divers come here and constantly harangue divers or open circuit divers constantly poke at rebreather divers.

Otherwise we will have to lock the thread. Thanks for your understanding!