Do you think they are a real advantage or just marketing hype?
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Do you think they are a real advantage or just marketing hype?
These fins are said to be "easier" to use, and more efficient. How is a fin efficient when it surrounds the water, rather than pushes the water? I had a fin that literally collapsed when I had to fin hard with all my gear. Those are not fins, they useless decorations!!
Have both very rarely use my jetfins because they are a little small but there is a huge difference between the two. With split fins you don't get as much thrust, but I also don't even notice wearing them. I love my jetfins for body surfing because they fit fine without booties.
Own a pair of splits and a pair of regular blades.
The splits are great in places like lakes, but quickly become a hinderance with a strong current like in rivers,or the ocean when fighting swells. They both serve me well but I am partial to the splits because there is less of a strain on my knees when used in the right conditions. Also I can honestly say that regardless of the condition, I have never gotten a leg cramp when I was wearing my splits.
I think the split fins are OK but I don't think they supply as much thrust when needed in a hurry ......... like when "popoising up onto a rib". They are much easier on the legs and I use mine with twin 12s and a backmounted deco cylinder so they can't be that poor. I do wreck diving at slack water and am not interested in fighting currents ......... when the tide starts to rip then I'm out of there so I can't really comment oh their effectiveness in a current.
I do think they kick up less silt due to the difference in the "wake" they create compared to normal fins. This assertion, however, is hotly contested by some solid fin wearers who claim the opposite.
TBH, you need an adapted finning style for split fins and I'm not sure I've got it right myself.
They do tend to be quite long which can be a real PITA on a wreck ........... or near coral I would imagine.
I'm not sure if I would buy another pair ............. I'd probably go back to my Mares Plana Avanti style ................. but now I'm older ...............
Lobbocks! I'm buying a scooter! :)
I think the poll should have a "don't know" option? :)
I don't know if these will help:-
www.divernet.com/equipment/fins/0902/fins.htm
http://www.divernet.com/cgi-bin/arti...play&show=fins
Advantage, Not if you're into photography.Quote:
Originally Posted by iDiveChick
Cornel
Change Jet fins to include Rocket Fins please -----Quote:
Originally Posted by iDiveChick
Well I don't need to hurry every when diving. I'm kinda in the relaxed let's make the air last mode all the time.
I'm also old, if it weren't for splits I'm sure I'd be done diving.
I'll just be the old relaxed guy breathing half as much air as you guys who use powerful fins, lol.
;)
I spent over 30 years in jet fins. I now only use Scuba Pro Twin Speed fins. After trying several split fins, I found that the floppier fins (apollo) didn't give me the maneuvering power I needed. The Twin Speed is very stiff. I find it superior in almost every way. I rarely flutter kick but use mostly frog. The stiifer splits do very well
Not good in current?? BULL! In PNG I dive vicious currents. Once, when we needed to put a clip in the mooring line for an overnight stay, one of the boat's divemasters and I offered to do it. The mooring line was in the middle of the top on a seamount. The current was ripping. We had to swim from the lee of the bommie up and over the top to the line. The divemaster was a third of my age and wearing LONG paddle fins. I was wearing my splits. We had to PUSH to get to the line. I not only beat him to the mooring, I was not breathing nearly as hard.
So before you naysay to splits, spend enough time to learn how to use them. There is a learning curve to using them.
I don't recollect thinking "these are useless" when I switched to split fins 4 or 5 years ago BUT, neither do I recollect thinking "these are brilliant" .......Quote:
Originally Posted by allisonfinch
Having only ever had 2 pairs of fins in 20 years I suppose it is impossible to offer good general advice ......... I do agree that the really floppy split fins are not good for 'hard finning' (IMO).
Most polls seem to be about 50/50 on split fins.
I prefer full footpocket long blades for the lion's share of my scuba diving, and all of my freediving.
Chad
I replaced my US Divers Blades with Atomic Splitfins. It was like trading in your VW for a Dodge Viper. I expend at lot less effort on a typical dive with the Atomics. The only disadvantage I can see is that it might not work as well with shorter divers.
I have two pairs of fins I wear regularly: Tusa X-pert Zoom splits and Mares Quattro paddles. I like them both.
From a leg-strength standpoint, the splits are way easier on the legs. No cramps! I hate doing surface swims (especially on my back) with the paddles--must be something about the surface tension of the water or something--but I get cramps doing that.
In terms of performance, the splits are faster and easier agaisnt a current, and I have no trouble "steering" with them in a drift. It's just an impression that splits don't provide as much thrust as paddles because you don't feel the strain on your legs, knees, and ankles in the splits that you do in the paddles. You actually get the same or better performance with less effort in splits.
What splits are NOT so great for is swimming backwards. I can really only accomplish that to a very limited extent in splits, whereas with paddles it's not hard. Lots of people who are used to paddles can't seem to do helicopter turns or other manoeuvers in splits, but it just takes a bit of adaptation. I can turn on a dime in my splits, and I do lots of photo, so hovering and helicopter turns are essential for me.
As far as frog kicking goes, I can frog kick just fine with splits, and generally prefer a frog kick with splits over a frog kick with paddles since the splits give me a smoother "ride" whereas the paddles produce a more uneven, jerkier rhythm.
I'd choose my splits over the rocket/turtle/jet fins any day..
Personal preference.
i tried to take a HEAVY Intro diver against a current, apollo splits and atomic splits were terrible, no use whatso ever, my quatro's on the otherhand, tackle it great.
i think is also has alot to do with leg strengh, i have strong legs, the splits compleately bent and i just wasnt getting anywhere.
in generally calm waters, love them, best thing there is.
the Quatro's very good aswell.
just started useing Jets trying them out. WOW, i want to tell you, they are flexable, not as tough as the RocketFins, are easy to fin with in a current, on the serface, i dunno, everywhere.
i dont have the cash for the Jets but when i will....
meanwhile, i use my trusty quatro's they are great :)
again, love the splits in quiet waters, maybe, i havnt had splits long enough to learn how to really use them as allisonfinch, you said?
i do have a conclusion though, Cant argue with personal preferance.
OK. Here we go. This is one of my favorite subjects.
As a former Scuba Instructor (Naui/Padi) I have an opinion, and as a 6 foot four 225 lb. waterman raised in So Cal Beaches, I have another.
Here is what decided it for me.
I was bored at the dive shop one day, and saw the "swimming belt" we had lying on the pool deck.
This belt was made of stout surgical tubing, and was tied to the hand rail in the deep end of the pool.
The other end was tied to a weight belt, without weights. The tubing was long enough to stretch from the rail to ALMOST the farthest corner of the pool.
Get it?
We could swim non-stop and not touch the corner. We also didn't have to do flip turns in our small POS pool.
I took every type of fin we had from our sales shelf and tried it in our pool.
Don't forget, I am a monster in the water.
Some fins got me just so far; others repeatedly fell off my feet!
My UDT's stayed on and got ME the furthest. Period.
That is the fin I used, and my safety divers used.
Of course I was trained by a former Navy SEAL;
I just wanted to see for myself.
Later on as a US Marine in BRC, we used UDT's as well.
There is no substitute for a stout fin and strong leg muscles.
For me, there is no second choice
why did Seafox say that there is no advantage if you are into photography? Are the split fins not good for photography?
I love my splits, and would never change out of them. The are easier on my knees and give plenty of thrust, despite what people think. We get pretty strong current and tides here in the Northeast US. The difference is that most people equate thrust and power with feeling tired and out of breath. Splits don't do that. They just get you where you need...more easily. It's like the difference between cars that quickly accellerate and snap you neck or just get to finish line first, nice and smoothly.
You can maneuver easier with paddle-style fins. Try backing up in tight quarters with a pair of splits. One may have a tendency to silt more with split fins. I know photographers who use both styles, but the ones I know that use split fins while doing photo work are more experienced divers who have learned to work with them.
DiveRite! For Cave, Wreck, and Photo. Never saw a fish with split fins that wasn't dying or being eaten! Physics has this law that for every action is an opposite and equal reaction. If you don't wear fins you won't cramp either! It feels good to and the fit is fantastic, but I want to get somewhere and have a stable platform for my camera, not to mention don't take your split fins in a cave! Or a wreck in front of me! I have had too many scenes wrecked by some inconsiderate split-finer! :mad:
Yeah, my but split fins are comfy;Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa Bear
They make me feel better when I am cramping...
Isn't that only once a month? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigerbeach
Don't you have trouble spotting your wetsuit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa Bear
No, it is Black and Blue! No trouble at all:p