I recently started diving colder waters and on a surface Interval on a dive boat a topic came up, where do you put your mask. arrguments for both side made sense. soooo
where do you put your mask over or under your hood...and why ?
Mike
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I recently started diving colder waters and on a surface Interval on a dive boat a topic came up, where do you put your mask. arrguments for both side made sense. soooo
where do you put your mask over or under your hood...and why ?
Mike
On the gear table or in my dive bag ;)
The strap belongs under your hood and nowhere else.
Those silly neoprene straps are not needed either.
With the strap under the hood the mask will ALWAYS be in place. You cannot lose it, it cannot come off your face in a gas share drill or emergency. Simple exhalation will also put a little air in the hood which also makes ear equalization easier too.
The method for putting it on is simple. Peel your hood back, put the mask on. Stretch the hood over your head and put in place. DONE. When you come up, peel back hood, take off mask.
Some pointers. Once you have adjusted your mask strap for a comfortable fit take some electrical tape and tape down the straps. This keeps those silly danglies from getting all over the place.
Also -- only after the mask is on and hood is in place do you put on your gloves.
It will take you 10 dives with the strap under the hood to understand why this is THE way to do it.
The only reason you were not taught to put it under the hood is that during OW trainining you need to remove and replace your mask for skills. In the real world once the mask is on it stays on till you are back on the boat or out of the water completely.
My mask has been under my hood since November 12, 1988.
Cheers,
Um J....I like my silly neoprene straps on my masks.... (the neoprene helps keep the hair from getting tangled)...Quote:
Originally Posted by JS1scuba
:)
But you did learn me to put my neoprene strap under my hood.....
Im either. On top or under rubber strap or neoprene. Some masks feel better certain ways. No worries about masks getting kicked off either i carry a spare.
Matt
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Originally Posted by Zero
Some day and that day will come you will be on a dive with some Noobs and a 300 pound guy will come at you from out of the blue and that mask will get blown off your face as he comes looking for the regulator that is in your mouth. .......... spare mask is nice but why carry something to solve a problem you never would have had in the first place?
jds
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Originally Posted by SoCalDiveGirl
Uh Missy ... your hair will not get tangled IF you follow the instructions. Before the dive just put a dab of conditioner in your hands and run it through your hair. Then Put the mask on and put strap in place. Then put hood up.
The neoprene strap cover actually makes the mask LESS secure since it increases the surface area of the strap and that in and of itself helps it act as a lever and even the smallest snag or tug on the cover from any edge will lift it up and let the mask dislodge.
Add to it the additional thickness of the neoprene strap allows more water to be inside the hood thereby decreasing the thermal efficency of the hood. The more water flow the colder you will be.
The reason a mask strap has the oval opening is so that it can have two places of formation around the back of the head. This gives the mask a three-point anchor.
Cheers
JDS
The more important question is how does Joel know how to keep hair from becoming entangled in his mask strap, like he has experienced that problem as of late ;)
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Originally Posted by BamaCaveDiver
Bama,
It's true, I do not have the tangle problem with my hair. However after diving extensively since 1988, training more than 3000 divers, interacting with more than 30,000 on dive boats over the years I kinda have an idea as to how to solve some of these little problems.
:-)
Um J- and this is why it's under the hood... :) Doesn't matter if its neoprene or rubber when it's under the hood because the hood secures it in place, does it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by JS1scuba
And I dive with a spare mask also :D
I think a TDL neoprene mask strap in pink would be nice.... *smile*
JD is my goober cousin on my first wife's second side who dropped out of kindergarten and has worked at Waffle House, Bob's Big Boy, the Piggly Wigley and who from the last info we got lives in a trailer in the south someplace that ain't got no wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalDiveGirl
Actually it's rare that you have a rubber strap anymore --- they are either black or clear (frosted) silicone.
And, If someday I make TDL mask strap covers -- i will make you a pink one.
:D
JDS
You're impossible sometimes. Silicone/rubber - they pull hair. I have hair.. and I don't like it pulled (well, ok not by a mask strap).Quote:
Originally Posted by JS1scuba
Bob's Big Boy- I think thats in Baker, where the worlds largest thermometer resides.. I think it used to be called Bun Boy though.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun_Boy
Bun Boy is also in Barstow.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalDiveGirl
Well they have a few Big Boys in Fla. Though I'm sure kuzin JD dun messed them up out thar too.
:-)
JDS
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Originally Posted by SoCalDiveGirl
OH BOY!! Here we go, if it isn't pink........ or all things are better if covered by pink....... Let me guess, a pink hood would effect a better seal!!
I think I am going to go color blind!!! Maybe that is what DIR really is Defficient Internal Retnal....? just a bunch of color blind people who have been misrepresented. Yeah I think thats what it all is.
What can I say Joel, that opening was just too tempting to pass up:pQuote:
Originally Posted by JS1scuba
Hey has anyone told you to stfu lately? If not, let me be the first to do so :)Quote:
Originally Posted by amtrosie
Obviously you have "issues" with colored gear? Its ok, go ahead and get some colored dive gear-- you'll realize it doesn't change how you dive at all... It's ok, really....
Ever tried therapy? :)
I don't know, if I'll be able to use pink gear, I was raised not to see color. :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SoCalDiveGirl
Does a mask with SOME pink count?
Therapy has been tried, but when she walked in with a pink blouse on, things just seemed to go backward quickly. I never could figure it out.......:p
Just pulling your leg, after all colors quickly diminish at depths any way.
Thats it. I'm getting you a set of pink gear ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by amtrosie
Or maybe just a pink flowered 1mm macho suit from the box jelly thread...
hehe
If the sheep herders made the new DIR color PINK every one of them would be wearing pink.Quote:
Originally Posted by amtrosie
Now pink koolaid tastes like crap so it might as well be pink lemonade .....
Pink it's the color of choice for those who understand and appreciate that there is more than black.
Cheers
You all still dive with a mask? Can't you see well underwater? It took a few decades, but my eyes finally adjusted... not.
I always dive with my strap under my hood, but for an additional reason from the good ones Joel pointed out. As a videographer, I have one hand previously occupied with my camera. When my mask strap breaks, the hood holds the mask near my face and I can continue my dive and filming by pressing the video camera housing against the mask. Had to do that on a very important dive a few years ago.
Missy is entitled to wear what she wants color wise... I still dive with her on occasion. I know you do too, Joel.Quote:
Originally Posted by JS1scuba
However, I have a serious question related to the color blue... specifically on wet suits. I have never had a wetsuit that had blue fabric on it last very long. I don't know if the blue fabrics are more sensitive to UV or what, but they fall apart quickly in my experience (sometimes within 25 dives). The black neoprene is still in great shape.
I'm the poster boy for non-DIR diving, but I think my next few wetsuits will be all black... no blue (or pink, sorry Missy!).
What do you do if you're not wearing a hood? Staples?
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Originally Posted by seasnake
25% of your body heat is lost through your head. You should be wearing at least a thin hood, even if its one of those 1mil things. I have a 2mill hoded vest I wear most of the time when diving wet.
If the water is that warm where no hood at all is needed 90f then just put the mask on, put the breathing thing in your mouth, the feet things on your feet and go diving.
:D
I've always heard that blue paint (such as on vehicles) tends to fade sooner than other colors.. Looked all over this site- http://www.cis.rit.edu/fairchild/Why...r/shortAs.html -to find something about color fading, but didn't see anything about blue specifically.. It did mention that the colorants used in some dyes and fabrics affect the fade-ability (I dont think that's a word, but hey- it works) of paint, clothing, etc... so... stick to black!Quote:
Originally Posted by DrBill
I'm pretty cold-blooded, er--- cold-natured---I tend to get really cold, really easily... but while diving in Cozumel's 80F degree water with no hood, I never got cold... My dives all ran between 48- 87 minutes, 3-4 dives a day...Quote:
Originally Posted by JS1scuba
Now... California diving :eek:
Oh... and I had a neoprene strap on my mask in Coz.... and my hair didn't get tangled. :p :p :p
are these what you are talking about earlier? i think these ones have more secure strap (w/ locks) rather than the ones w/ just velcro.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalDiveGirl
but i prefer the one where you just slip the rubber/silicone strap in between the neoprene cover. therefore still having the sturdy strap w/ less hair tangling and easy to put on. :D :rolleyes: :o :p
The ones with velcro are just as bad, if not worse, than just the plain strap...Quote:
Originally Posted by santelmo
I use the ones that just slide on and cover the strap..
This is a great subject. I never wear a hood and many times when I get back on the boat....well after the SI....and everyone is putting on their BC's on....I'm frantically looking for my Mask.....earlier this year I set in in a tank hold...with divers coming back on board....grabbed it before the tank squashed it:eek: I'll start to think twice....probably put in my bag.
Have newly qualified from OW and done 4 dives. On 2 of these I have had to remove my hood twice due to it causing probs with my mask. I absolutely agree from now on I will only dive with the mask inside the hood.
As an after thought 17 degrees celcius without a hood is no probs, in fact it was quite refreshing but I wouldnt like to go too much colder
:iagree:
outside the hood