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The Publisher
05-01-2007, 11:16 PM
Apple has anounced their latest version of Final Cut Studio.

Some might be aware Apple purchased the rights to a program called Shake which has features in it that allowed editors to smooth out a shaky camera shot as well as having powerful color correction features.

Apple stopped development of Shake once they purchased it which fueled speculation that Shake's powerful features were going to be incorporated into Final Cut Pro. That speculation proved to be true with the release of Final Cut Studio 2.

Final Cut Pro 6 introduces ProRes 422, Apple’s new post-production format offering uncompressed HD quality at SD file sizes. "Use ProRes 422 when collaborating over an Xsan storage network or working on a portable computer in the field; when working with non-native camera formats; or to preserve maximum quality for composites and demanding color grading work" says Apple.

The Smoothcam feature ported over from Shake allows editors to take a shaky clip, such as a macro shot of that tiny Imperator shrimp and remove the shake of the underwater housing. If you have slight shaky housing movement taken during a camera pan shot, such as sweeping the camera slowly left to right, it will even smooth that out while preserving the pan movement.

Zero
05-01-2007, 11:28 PM
Jeez i thought Photoshop was hard. There goes any thought of buying a video cam.

Matt

seasnake
05-02-2007, 06:27 PM
I have used similar software but to tell you the truth I didn't find it did much. It will be interesting to see this version in action. I think it is for very minor camera shake, if I'm not mistaken.

DrBill
05-15-2007, 04:15 PM
I have been an avid PC user for 25 years now and a Premiere user for 6 years. For the first time in my life, I am not only praising Apple for their recent decisions, but seriously considering a Mac as my next video editing platform. Apple has made some very good decisions that have finally countered many of my concerns. Microsoft has made... er... another mess with Vista!

Purpleturtle
05-15-2007, 06:48 PM
I find that most new-comers to underwater videography would benefit more by learning to hold the camera steady using good buoyancy skills. I've used many cameras, housings, editing packages and add-ons.....but do we all need HD with antishake? Maybe the pros do....I'll stick with premiere and a single chip camera....oh and hold my camera steady manually.

freediver
06-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Sorry to burst the bubbles of the macophiles but a PC is just as powerful for video editing as a MAC.

Anyone who thinks they will become a better shooter/editor because they use a MAC are living in a dream world. You have limited options on a MAC and I have seen as good if not better results produced on a PC running PPro, Vegas 7, Edius, Avid Express, etc.

If you own a MAC that's one thing, but to say a PC is inferior to a MAC is a subjective statement. I have worked on both platforms and feel that for the money, SONY's Vegas 7 running on Windows XP Pro in many ways, surpasses what FCP can do.

Even SONY's consumer Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition blows away Final Cut Express - and at almost 1/3 the cost - and handles HDV as well.

SONY's apps are known for outright stability on the most modest of hardware specs - I have even read about MAC users running Parallels just so they can run a copy of Vegas on their Macbooks.

SONY gives you the opportunity to download a fully functional 30 day trial of Vegas Studio Platinum here (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/step2.asp?DID=684) and their Pro NLE Vegas 7 here (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/step2.asp?DID=698) to see what their products can do.

I highly recommend it for any PC users out there.

seasnake
06-08-2007, 03:27 PM
No argument from me on that one. I am typing this on my G5 as we speak, use a Mac everyday for photo editing, video editing and illustration, and to me Mac (and Adobe, might as well throw them in there . . . lol) is the result of excellent marketing and a lot of hype. If I had a hammer on my desk I probably wouldn't have a mac anymore. :oP Now, at my other office, I use a Pentium 4, Windows based ... and many times I've considered hurling that out the window too. But at least the PC does everything just as well, in some cases better, without all the hype. My G5 has two dual core processors, but photoshop still runs better and faster on the PC. Plus the PC has more options, more third party support, less expensive, etc., etc. Don't even get me started on the ignorant, unwieldy, Mt. Everest learning curve on Adobe software!! There are so many better options out there, but "if you aren't using photoshop, you must not be a pro". I'm not saying the Mac isn't wonderful, and photoshop and FCP are amazing, powerful software packages there is no doubt! Very powerful and robust ... It's just that unsubstantiated religious zealotism that gets to me ... :D

On the upside ... I heard yesterday someone is updating the OS for the Amiga! Can I get a *woot, woot*!? Now there was a video editing platform!

Sarah
06-08-2007, 03:31 PM
I think it is PC's that limit one's options as to software, whereas the Intel chip based Mac's opens one's options as they can run Windows based programs natively without needing an emulator.

Stevect
06-09-2007, 12:08 AM
Sorry to burst the bubbles of the macophiles but a PC is just as powerful for video editing as a MAC.

Anyone who thinks they will become a better shooter/editor because they use a MAC are living in a dream world. You have limited options on a MAC and I have seen as good if not better results produced on a PC running PPro, Vegas 7, Edius, Avid Express, etc.

If you own a MAC that's one thing, but to say a PC is inferior to a MAC is a subjective statement. I have worked on both platforms and feel that for the money, SONY's Vegas 7 running on Windows XP Pro in many ways, surpasses what FCP can do.

Even SONY's consumer Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition blows away Final Cut Express - and at almost 1/3 the cost - and handles HDV as well.

SONY's apps are known for outright stability on the most modest of hardware specs - I have even read about MAC users running Parallels just so they can run a copy of Vegas on their Macbooks.

SONY gives you the opportunity to download a fully functional 30 day trial of Vegas Studio Platinum here (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/step2.asp?DID=684) and their Pro NLE Vegas 7 here (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/step2.asp?DID=698) to see what their products can do.

I highly recommend it for any PC users out there.
I have worked on a PC platform for quite a few years. I have been a PC user for many years. I have worked in the IT industry for 20 years and am a MCSE and have used a lot of PC editing software for my video. I took a look at Finaly Cut Studio and went straight out and got myself an iMac 20 and it's the best thing that I have ever done.

I still use the PC for little bits but my Mac with FCS is the tool for me.

Steve

seasnake
06-11-2007, 08:21 PM
I think it is PC's that limit one's options as to software, whereas the Intel chip based Mac's opens one's options as they can run Windows based programs natively without needing an emulator.

If you are running Windows programs why do you need a Mac?

I am using Mac versions of Adobe CS2 stuff with the intel processors on my G5, and it's my understanding that it hasn't been optimized for the intel processors? So that is why it runs a little clunky. I heard that CS3 will be optimized, but I haven't tried it.

And remember the Commodore 64?! Ahhh, the mere utterance of the name floods me with warm feelings of nostalgia ... :D Those were the days ...

mydiveproductions
06-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Commador 64 brings back fond game playing memories but my first toy was a Spectrum ZX 81 !

As for FCP 6 it rocks. All you pc users havent got a clue :-)

James

hd2o
09-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Computer arguements are even stranger than Godly arguements. Who cares what platform is best, who has the best toys. I want to know the person who can use 50% of their hard/software capacity. Reality check: If I can't shoot I suck, and if I can't light, and you can't act we suck even with all the best toys. I teach college, Advanced Editing and Compositing. It's the final class in the ciricululumnunm. I still can't spell and many "graduates" don't use 10% of the machine, happens to be Mac. But they need plugins. It's dumb-down to that? My only questions is: What have you done with this half machine: half monster? If the answer is, 'not much but I need this plug-in to really shine'. Not smart to admit a plug-in can replace them. I'd have to say, a 5 year old system is still brand new if you're just starting. Get busy learning, because in the end it only matters what YOU can do with your knowledge, not your platform. Commador was at one time a cool device. Sorry for those who can remember that!
peace,

freediver
10-17-2007, 11:48 AM
Computer arguements are even stranger than Godly arguements. Who cares what platform is best, who has the best toys. I want to know the person who can use 50% of their hard/software capacity. Reality check: If I can't shoot I suck, and if I can't light, and you can't act we suck even with all the best toys. I teach college, Advanced Editing and Compositing. It's the final class in the ciricululumnunm. I still can't spell and many "graduates" don't use 10% of the machine, happens to be Mac. But they need plugins. It's dumb-down to that? My only questions is: What have you done with this half machine: half monster? If the answer is, 'not much but I need this plug-in to really shine'. Not smart to admit a plug-in can replace them. I'd have to say, a 5 year old system is still brand new if you're just starting. Get busy learning, because in the end it only matters what YOU can do with your knowledge, not your platform. Commador was at one time a cool device. Sorry for those who can remember that!
peace,

Love the comment about chic fights.. LOL

But seriously, your comment about how much people use their computers is a valid statement. Me - I'm in front of my computer almost every day using a multitude of apps related to digital content creation which include as my mainstays SONY Vegas Pro 8, Sound Forge 9, Acid Pro 4, Cinescore 1.0, Photoshop 7 and GoLive 6. I am either shooting and editing video, recording audio narrations or audio podcasts with Sound Forge or scoring music with Acid Pro and Cinescore. Web page design is done with Adobe GoLive 6 and Photoshop 7.

It gets old hearing about "How great the MAC is" or "It's a more professional platform" or "PC's suck". That's like saying that the camera you shoot with determines how good the footage is going to be - it's the operator, not the gear that makes the final product. PC or MAC - it doesn't matter - just as long as the end product is as good as it can possibly be.

(Some PC users do have a clue) :rolleyes:

seasnake
10-17-2007, 02:54 PM
It's true, both platforms are excellent tools to create with (even if Mac adherents seem to be the DIR zealots of the computer world ... ooops, did I say that out loud??) :p

But ahhhhhhh, the Commodore ... those were the days ... and the Amiga!! ohhh baby ...

Vancouver Rassy
05-13-2008, 05:01 PM
I love the way this thread became a Mac vs Pc thread. Ha!

I'm going to look for that filter because for the life of me i can't hold the camera that still.

The Publisher
05-14-2008, 01:46 AM
Well, it is not the end all fix....it takes a decent shot and makes it a little better....it won't correct a bad shot as it has to zoom in too much.....

I tend to slightly stabilize every clip....but not overly stabilize it. .5 to .7 works for me.

Now in fairness, I have become occasionally decent in holding sort of still on macro, so I just shoot enough footage so sooner or later I will get something usable.

Papa Bear
05-14-2008, 02:33 AM
Get a Reed's Rod and you will be able to! I use it on a peace of dead coral to stabilize the housing and minimize at least one axis!

The Publisher
05-14-2008, 02:41 AM
I need both hands to operate the videocam and it is rarely within distance of anything anyway.